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Not super sure how to rate this. On its own it's a detailed, creative addition to the universe with an obvious sense of expertise behind it, but I'm just not convinced it's a good addition.
The Authority isn't technologically or monetarily all-powerful. The major additions of the AEDF and Budget Cuts to the RPC universe are to heavily imply a byzantine, aged organization that is past its prime and being forced to scale down as the weight of its mission becomes impossible to bear.
There's much more of an incentive for the Authority to purchase older, proven aircraft that have been already been replaced by modern militaries (after all, it's not like Protection is getting into a war anytime soon) than to take on the immense monetary cost of developing a current-year capable military aircraft, much less a fucking VTOL.
Those things are expensive to make, as proven by how the UK, US, and China are the only nations (to my knowledge) to have made their own models. Let's not even get into the heavy maintenance and fuel costs that they require to operate. I'm just not convinced an Authority that was forced to massively scale down its (much more valuable) space force after the 70s is in any condition to design, build, test, rebuild, produce, then maintain military aircraft when there's just no obvious need for a machine-human integrated, cybernetics-dependant, custom-made, bleeding-edge VTOL aircraft in place of a good old helicopter.
Not sold on the necessity for the existence of a whole air systems command or an air training program. Again: do the Authority's operating needs, which are not by any means military, warrant or demand the existence of an entire air force?
I understand your criticism, but I'm not sure how constructive it is.
that is past its prime and being forced to scale down as the weight of its mission becomes impossible to bear.
MK2s and MK3s were better than the MK4. The MK4s that do exist with all the advanced technology, exist as a handful in Florida. The MK4 is superior because it is flexible and appears civilian.
when there's just no obvious need for a machine-human integrated, cybernetics-dependant, custom-made, bleeding-edge VTOL aircraft in place of a good old helicopter.
Antigravity craft used in Antarctica during a war, multiple battle-capable spacecraft, and battles that involve anomalous technology.
The criticisms you're suggesting do exist, in universe. The argument over "is this necessary, should we be spending money on this" is valid, and its addressed here.
My takeaway isn't that I need to change the vehicle to make it fit that, but make it more controversial in-universe. You don't seem to be criticizing the article, but the vehicle, which is valid, but I think the distinction should be made.
Not sold on the necessity for the existence of a whole air systems command or an air training program.
Yeah fair I'll cut that thanks
It's a concept that I was curious to learn about but proved to be very dry and technical with very little interest. That's a problem with the patent format, unless you're into planes or armor, you either have to rely on concept alone and I don't think this article is a tenth of where it needs to be to make me feel entertained. It just feels like paperwork and nothing else. compared to SCP, I think Prometheus Labs does a better job at this. My point is, it's not enough to have a really well-told technical document, and even in best-case-scenarios, it's bare enough to have an interesting concept, you have to use that concept, explore the intricacies of that concept, and find its story potential.
The first version sucked and then GD-Architect made a better version, cool, but where's the heart? The action? Too often I think we forget that creative writing is about storytelling, not an exercise in fabricating fake paperwork. I wish I could rate higher.
I agree, it could use more drama, but… this is a patent. I'm not sure why you were expecting heart or action. And I don't know how valid of a retort from me this is, but in the crit thread people seemed to find it pretty interesting considering the format.
I think I could kill two birds here by adding in the controversy Alma would like to up the "action" you'd like to see.
Thanks!
I like a lot of the ideas presented in this article. I think the idea of an Authority VTOL makes sense and the integration of cognitive interfaces in the most advanced models feels very Ace Combat. I just think that the article is pretty uninteresting in the earlier segments and there are a lot of confusing details. Why would the Authority even make a new model of VTOL if the MK2 wasn't able to be utilized at all? How would the average engineer be unable to access the blueprints for these vehicles due to them being classified, but also be expected to work on them?
When it comes to the MK4 it feels like you tried to justify its existence as being cheaper than other models, but honestly, it still feels like a bit of a money sink. I think it would make more sense as a collaborative thing between Forge and CMDR in order to receive their extra budget during budget cuts, which was adopted by protection afterward. I'd also maybe say it should be able to use parts from the Osprey models since it seems like the authority only had a few original VTOLs, which makes the tidbit about it being able to use their parts kinda meaningless in the long run.
Finally, the one major thing about this article which I think *needs* to be fixed, is that you never explain how these vehicles take off and fly. It's a very easy fix, the blueprint you give could easily be utilizing Tiltjet propulsion or lift jets or even lift fans. You do mention it uses jet propulsion near the beginning but that still doesn't specify what kind in this case. Honestly, if you want you could do something a little fun and maybe have the MK1 use a similar jet engine to the Rolls-Royce TVR where the engine exhaust is just pushed down with a tube creating the lift. Would help explain the engine overheating as well.
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